Introductory Session
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Sophia-Iberia team, 10 December 2008:
Introduction - Proposal for a work plan.doc
Initial document for the Introductory Debate
Roberto Poli, 16 January 2009:
Discussion on human evolution.doc
Response to SI Initial Document
Sophia-Iberia team, 28 January 2008:
SOPHIA IB - Reply to Neil's comment on 22 Dec 08.doc
SOPHIA IB - Reply to Roberto's document on 16 Jan 09.doc
Comments (6)
Neil Spurway said
at 10:24 pm on Dec 22, 2008
The initial document appeals to me in many respects, but I have two small criticisms:
1) The opening line refers to a "moment" when human reason appeared on the evolutionary stage. That there was such a moment is an assumption, and to me it seems a highly improbable one. Surely it is much more likely that individual tiny acts of reason occurred intermittently, over an indefinitely long period before a modern observer, imaginarily present at the time, could have recognised the involvement of reason?
2) Similarly I point out and challenge the assumption (explicit under IV, and implicit once or twice earlier) that animals have only knowledge, not reason. Behaviour studies surely indicate that reason is present in great apes, marine mammals, and even such less-expected creatures as certain crows; and some of the actions reported suggest considerably more than the kinds of "individual tiny act" referred to above.
Roberto Poli said
at 1:42 pm on Jan 16, 2009
Roberto Poli
I also agree with the initial document. I have only a major reservation: unless I have missed something, nowhere the role of emotions is taken into account. I would therefore suggest to add a slot for discussing the interplay between the emotional and the cognitive sides of mind.
I would love continuing the topic opened by Neil. My note, however was too long (only 2 pages, but nevertheless too long for a comment). I have tried to upload the file, which should be reachable from here
Roberto Poli said
at 1:45 pm on Jan 16, 2009
Roberto:
Amparo: I failed to draw the link. Could you please do it for me? Sooner or later I shall learn how to do things...
Amparo García-Plaza said
at 6:34 pm on Jan 16, 2009
Roberto, it's done. For next time: once in the Edit mode of the page, one needs to click on "Images and Files" at the mid right side of the screen, there the already uploaded files will be available. You just need to set your cursor on the desired place of the page to edit, and then click on the required file displayed at the right hand side, and the link will be made. I hope this explanation helps.
Amparo García-Plaza said
at 7:17 pm on Jan 16, 2009
Roberto, I see now that you wanted to link the file to the “comment”, I don’t think that is possible, that is why we had planned to have the files displayed on the main page and leave the “comments section” only for brief inputs. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Roberto Poli said
at 1:51 pm on Feb 3, 2009
ooops. Sorry for having directly jumped into problems, without realizing that it wasn't the appropriate thing to do. Javier's proposals are perfectly fine to me.
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